WHO RECOVERED SWAMI NAMMAZHWAR FROM LAKE?
WHO RECOVERED SWAMI NAMMAZHWAR FROM LAKE?
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Posted by: "Sarathy Thothathri" sarathy_t@yahoo.com sarathy_t
Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:52 am (PDT)
FYI. While we dont like to indulge in unnecessary arguments with srivaishnavas
and want to just focus on our own paths/acharyas' instructions - often times we
come across some of these false propagandas even from learned persons.
adiyen sarathy ramanuja dasan
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To: sarathy thothathri
SrI:
Dear Sriman Thothathri Swamy :
Many Thanks for your kind email .
NamO SrI NrisimhAya,
V.Sadagopan
From: sarathy thothathri
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:19 AM
To: yennappan@computer.net
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Subject: Re: Saranagathi Digest Number 2249[7 Attachments]
Sri:
Srimathe ramanujaya nama:
Dear Sri Sadagopan swami
Since adiyen is part of saranagathi group, I saw this email and wanted to get
some clarification.
It is well known fact that Nammazhwar was retrieved by one swamy named
thOzhappar from the mountain side eventually sacrificing himself during the
particular event (documented clearly yathindra pravana prabhavam which was done
by pillai lokam jeeyar many centuries ago).
It is also well known fact that Swamy Thiruvaimozhipillai was the sthala
purusha in Azhwar thirungari around the time when swamy Nammazhawar's
thirumeni was brought back to Azhwar thirunagari and reinstated the proper
worship for him. All the other acharya purusha's came after Thiruvaimozhipillai
(except for Mathurakavi azhwar thiruvamsam and arayar thirvamsam) established by
Swamy Manavala Mamunigal and Ponnadikkal (vanamamalai first) jeeyar.
Thiruvaimozhipillai's thirivamsam continues to be one of the backbones of the
navathirupathi divya desams even today.
While we all agree that the first jeeyar of ahobila matam is an established
acharya (and there is ample proof that he is a thennacharya jeeyar - but we
wont go there for now), what is the need for this false propaganda - infact
adhivann jeeyar swamy himself will feel disheartened to hear about the false
claim.
We would request you to kindly refrain from posting/propagating details which
are contradictory to well known/established facts.
adiyen sarathy ramanuja dasan
4.
Ahobila Matam AchArya Paramparai : Part I
Posted by: "VS" yennappan@computer.net sadagopan10510
Fri Aug 6, 2010 3:28 pm (PDT)
The Asrama ThirunAmams of Srimath Azhagiya Singars
There are 46 Srimath Azhagiya Singars up to now in the AchArya Paramparai of
Sri AhoBila MaTham . All of their NaamAngitams begin with "SrI VaNN SaThakOpa
" and conclude with "Yatheendhra MahA Desikan ". The founding Jeeyar of the
Sri Matham " SaThakOpa Jeeyar" has the unique prefix of "Adhi VaNN " before
His Asrama ThirunAmam . Let us reflect on how that came about .
The Founding Jeeyar Of Sri AhoBila MaTham (Sri Aadhi VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar)
The EmperumAn of ThirukkuruhUr , AadhippirAn ( Polinthu ninRa PirAn) was so
pleased with SaThakOpa Jeeyar's
(1) courageous effort and generosity ( oudhAryam) in recovering Swamy
NammAzhwAr from the mountain lake in to which He was thrown by jealous people
of other mathams , (2)the Jeeyar's persistence in bringing the revered AzhwAr
back to His sannidhi in the temple and (3) consecrating the AzhwAr at this
sannidhi . Out of the sense of deep appreciation for SaThakOpa Jeeyar's
kaimkaryam , AdhippirAn added the prefix of "VaNN" to the Aasrama Naamam of
SaThakOpa Jeeyar through His Archakar . Now the First Jeeyar came to be
revered as " VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar ".
On one day, when VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar was performing joint MangaLAsAsanam of
Adhi PirAn and Swamy NammAzhwar , latter spoke to VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar this
way : " Oh VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar ! We are very pleased with Your consecration
of ourselves and for performing RaamAnuja DarSana Pravachanam . In recognition
of Your much appreciated kaimkaryams , we would like to give us pAridhOshikam
( BahumAnam , Parisu) the Hamsa Mudhrai , which we are wearing in our finger .
Oh Jeeyar ! You embraced me with such great ardour at the time of My
restoration to My sannidhi and in recognition of Your devotion , We join the "
Aadhi" prefix from the name of My Lord , AadhippirAn so that You will be
revered from now on as "Aadhi VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar " . Swamy NammAzhwAr said
further : " Please consecrate the dhivya MangaLa vigraham of Srimath VedAntha
Desikan in this dhivya dEsam in recognition of His commentaries on the arta
viSeshams of My ThiruvAimozhi through His two Sri Sookthis of DhramiDOpanishad
Saaram and DhramiDOpanishad Taatparya RatnAvaLi and for establishing further
His AchAryatvam ( role as a ParamAchAryan of RaamAnuja Darsanam) through the
construction of the Sri Sookti of SatadhUshaNi" . Adhi VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar
was thrilled to receive the anugraham and command of Swamy NammAzhwAr . He
consecrated Swamy Desikan's archaa vigraham at ThirukkuruhUr . Aadhi VaNN
SaThakOpa Jeeyar had a mahOtsavam for Swamy Desikan thereafter and had his
doubts cleared about the paramountcy of Bhagavath Aajn~A ( Lord's commands)
over those of Srutis and smrutis. Swamy NammAzhwAr was so pleased with the
intricate questions that the Jeeyar asked of Swamy Desikan that He spoke
through His archakA and said : " Oh Aadhi VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar ! From now on
, we command Your parijanams ( sishyAs) to address You as " Srimath Veda
Maarga PratishtApanAchArya Sarva Tantra SvatantrObhaya VedAnthAchArya Sri
Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntha nirdhAraNa Saarvabhouma Sri Adhi VaNN SaThakOpa
Jeeyar". The founding Jeeyar of Sri AhoBila Matham acquired thus His
ThirunAmam through the combined anugraham of the Lord of ThirukkuruhUr , Swamy
NammAzhwAr and Swamy Desikan . The First Jeeyar was also commanded by Swamy
NammAzhwAr to use the signature ( hastAksharam) of "SrI SaThakOpa Sri ". All
the Jeeyars who adorned the SrI MaTham throne after the Founding Jeeyar on to
the Prakrutam Jeeayr bear the above ThirunAmams and use
" Sri SaThakOpa Sri " as their Hastaaksharam even today .
Let us now reflect on the Thiru Naamams the succesors of the Founding Jeeyars
selected for themselves on their Aasrama SveekAram day .
NINE the 45 successors chose the sacred name of ThiruveLLUr VeerarAghava
PerumAl and are revered as "Sri VaNN SaThakOpa Sri VeerarAghava SaThakOpa
Yatheendhra MahA DeSikans . These 9 belong to the 13th , 15th , 17th , 20th ,
23rd , 27th , 32nd , 37th and the 43rd Pattam Jeeyars . The 15th Pattam
Azhagiya Singar has additional prefix of "KalyANa" before "VeerarAghava
Yatheendhra MahA Desikan". Most of them are from the Vaidhika GrAmams in and
around ThiruveLLUr or Kaanchipuram in ThoNDai MaNDalam such as YesanUr ,
PiLLaippAkkam and Ilanagar . There are however number of Azhagiya Singars
from ThoNDai MaNDalam , who chose the names of other dhivya desa EmperumAns
or PoorvAchAryAs .
EIGHT of the 46 Azhagiya Singars chose the name of Swamy NammAzhwAr as their
ThirunAmams including the First Jeeyar : " Srimath Aadhi VaNN SaThakOpa
Yatheendhra MahA Desikan " . The First, 5th , 7th , 10th , 16th , 33rd , 34th
and the 41st Pattam Azhagiya Singars carry this ThirunAmam. Three of these 8
Jeeyars have either a prefix or suffix after "SaThakOpa ". For instance , the
5th Pattam Azhagiya Singar chose the titile of " sarva tantra svatantra
SaThakOpa Yatheendhra MahA Desikan". The 34th Pattam Azhagiya Singar is known
as: SaThakOpa RaamAnuja Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan ". The 41st Pattam Jeeyar
is known as : " Lakshmi Nrisimha SaThakOpa Yatheendhra MahA Desikan ".
EIGHT more of the 46 Azhagiya Singars have borne the title of "NaarAyaNa
Yatheendhra MahA Desikan including the Prakrutam 45th Pattam (Periya)
Azhagiya Singar . The 2nd , 9th , 12th , 14th , 18th , 22nd , 31st and the
45th Pattam Azhagiya Singars are revered as : " SrI VaN SaThakOpa Sri
NaarAyaNa Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikans". There is no suffix or Prefix before the
NaarAyaNa SaBdham .
SEVEN OF THE 46 Azhagiya Singars carry the ThirunAmam of ThiruvEngadamudayAn
and are worshipped as " SrinivAsa Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan " with out any
prefix or suffix before their names. These Azhagiya Singars are : The 4th ,
11th , 19th , 25th , 30th , 36th and the 38th Pattam Jeeyars.
SEVEN of the 46 Azhagiya Singars carry the ParAnkusa ThirunAmam to remind
themselves of the special grace of Swamy NammAzhwAr ( ParAnkusar) . These
seven are : The 3rd , 6th , 8th , 21st , 24th , 29th and the 39th Pattam
Jeeyars . The sixth Pattam Azhagiya Singar has the suffix of "Shashta "
before the Thiru nAmam of "ParAnkusa Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan". The 29th
Pattam Azhagiya Singar has the suffix of RaamAnuja after the ParAnkuSa Naamam
: ParAnkuSa RaamAnuja Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan ".
SIX of the 45 Azhagiya Singars carry the ThirunAmam of Lord RanganAtha of Sri
Rangam . These are the 26th , 28th , 35th, 40th , 42nd and the 46th Pattam
Srimath Azhagiya Signars . Prakrutam Chinna Azhagiya Singar is the 46th
Pattam Jeeyar.
Only ONE among the 46 Azhagiya Singars carry Swamy Desikan's ThirunAmam . He
is the 44th Pattam , Srimath Mukkur Azhagiya Singar , who built the southen
Raaja Gopuram of Lord RanganAtha and is revered as Sri VedAntha Desika
Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan .
Acharya Thiru Nakshatrams of the illustrious Jeeyars of Sri Ahobila MaTham
will be celebrated on September 5 , 2010 at the Sri RanganAtha Temple ,
Pomona , NY . Please join the sishyAs and abhimAnis of SrI AhOBila MaTham ,
who would assemble there on this day to enjoy Thirumanjanam for Dolai KaNan ,
Veda -dhivya prabhandha PaarAyaNams and TadhiyArAdhanam as well as children's
programs . Please make your travel plans early since it will be a busy
weekend for travel . Please refer to Ahobila Matam portal
(http://www.ahobilam utt.org) for all details .
Srimath Azhagiya Singar ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam ,
DhAsan , Oppiliappan Koil Varadachari Sadagopan
.
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Posted by: "Sarathy Thothathri" sarathy_t@yahoo.com sarathy_t
Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:52 am (PDT)
FYI. While we dont like to indulge in unnecessary arguments with srivaishnavas
and want to just focus on our own paths/acharyas' instructions - often times we
come across some of these false propagandas even from learned persons.
adiyen sarathy ramanuja dasan
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From: sarathy thothathri
To: sarathy_t@yahoo.com
Sent: Sun, 15 August, 2010 9:17:14 PM
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From: VS
Date: Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: Saranagathi Digest Number 2249[7 Attachments]
To: sarathy thothathri
SrI:
Dear Sriman Thothathri Swamy :
Many Thanks for your kind email .
NamO SrI NrisimhAya,
V.Sadagopan
From: sarathy thothathri
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 4:19 AM
To: yennappan@computer.net
Cc: sarathy.thothathri@gmail.com ; varavaramunisambhandis@googlegroups.com ;
sarathy_t@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Saranagathi Digest Number 2249[7 Attachments]
Sri:
Srimathe ramanujaya nama:
Dear Sri Sadagopan swami
Since adiyen is part of saranagathi group, I saw this email and wanted to get
some clarification.
It is well known fact that Nammazhwar was retrieved by one swamy named
thOzhappar from the mountain side eventually sacrificing himself during the
particular event (documented clearly yathindra pravana prabhavam which was done
by pillai lokam jeeyar many centuries ago).
It is also well known fact that Swamy Thiruvaimozhipillai was the sthala
purusha in Azhwar thirungari around the time when swamy Nammazhawar's
thirumeni was brought back to Azhwar thirunagari and reinstated the proper
worship for him. All the other acharya purusha's came after Thiruvaimozhipillai
(except for Mathurakavi azhwar thiruvamsam and arayar thirvamsam) established by
Swamy Manavala Mamunigal and Ponnadikkal (vanamamalai first) jeeyar.
Thiruvaimozhipillai's thirivamsam continues to be one of the backbones of the
navathirupathi divya desams even today.
While we all agree that the first jeeyar of ahobila matam is an established
acharya (and there is ample proof that he is a thennacharya jeeyar - but we
wont go there for now), what is the need for this false propaganda - infact
adhivann jeeyar swamy himself will feel disheartened to hear about the false
claim.
We would request you to kindly refrain from posting/propagating details which
are contradictory to well known/established facts.
adiyen sarathy ramanuja dasan
4.
Ahobila Matam AchArya Paramparai : Part I
Posted by: "VS" yennappan@computer.net sadagopan10510
Fri Aug 6, 2010 3:28 pm (PDT)
The Asrama ThirunAmams of Srimath Azhagiya Singars
There are 46 Srimath Azhagiya Singars up to now in the AchArya Paramparai of
Sri AhoBila MaTham . All of their NaamAngitams begin with "SrI VaNN SaThakOpa
" and conclude with "Yatheendhra MahA Desikan ". The founding Jeeyar of the
Sri Matham " SaThakOpa Jeeyar" has the unique prefix of "Adhi VaNN " before
His Asrama ThirunAmam . Let us reflect on how that came about .
The Founding Jeeyar Of Sri AhoBila MaTham (Sri Aadhi VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar)
The EmperumAn of ThirukkuruhUr , AadhippirAn ( Polinthu ninRa PirAn) was so
pleased with SaThakOpa Jeeyar's
(1) courageous effort and generosity ( oudhAryam) in recovering Swamy
NammAzhwAr from the mountain lake in to which He was thrown by jealous people
of other mathams , (2)the Jeeyar's persistence in bringing the revered AzhwAr
back to His sannidhi in the temple and (3) consecrating the AzhwAr at this
sannidhi . Out of the sense of deep appreciation for SaThakOpa Jeeyar's
kaimkaryam , AdhippirAn added the prefix of "VaNN" to the Aasrama Naamam of
SaThakOpa Jeeyar through His Archakar . Now the First Jeeyar came to be
revered as " VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar ".
On one day, when VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar was performing joint MangaLAsAsanam of
Adhi PirAn and Swamy NammAzhwar , latter spoke to VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar this
way : " Oh VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar ! We are very pleased with Your consecration
of ourselves and for performing RaamAnuja DarSana Pravachanam . In recognition
of Your much appreciated kaimkaryams , we would like to give us pAridhOshikam
( BahumAnam , Parisu) the Hamsa Mudhrai , which we are wearing in our finger .
Oh Jeeyar ! You embraced me with such great ardour at the time of My
restoration to My sannidhi and in recognition of Your devotion , We join the "
Aadhi" prefix from the name of My Lord , AadhippirAn so that You will be
revered from now on as "Aadhi VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar " . Swamy NammAzhwAr said
further : " Please consecrate the dhivya MangaLa vigraham of Srimath VedAntha
Desikan in this dhivya dEsam in recognition of His commentaries on the arta
viSeshams of My ThiruvAimozhi through His two Sri Sookthis of DhramiDOpanishad
Saaram and DhramiDOpanishad Taatparya RatnAvaLi and for establishing further
His AchAryatvam ( role as a ParamAchAryan of RaamAnuja Darsanam) through the
construction of the Sri Sookti of SatadhUshaNi" . Adhi VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar
was thrilled to receive the anugraham and command of Swamy NammAzhwAr . He
consecrated Swamy Desikan's archaa vigraham at ThirukkuruhUr . Aadhi VaNN
SaThakOpa Jeeyar had a mahOtsavam for Swamy Desikan thereafter and had his
doubts cleared about the paramountcy of Bhagavath Aajn~A ( Lord's commands)
over those of Srutis and smrutis. Swamy NammAzhwAr was so pleased with the
intricate questions that the Jeeyar asked of Swamy Desikan that He spoke
through His archakA and said : " Oh Aadhi VaNN SaThakOpa Jeeyar ! From now on
, we command Your parijanams ( sishyAs) to address You as " Srimath Veda
Maarga PratishtApanAchArya Sarva Tantra SvatantrObhaya VedAnthAchArya Sri
Bhagavath RaamAnuja SiddhAntha nirdhAraNa Saarvabhouma Sri Adhi VaNN SaThakOpa
Jeeyar". The founding Jeeyar of Sri AhoBila Matham acquired thus His
ThirunAmam through the combined anugraham of the Lord of ThirukkuruhUr , Swamy
NammAzhwAr and Swamy Desikan . The First Jeeyar was also commanded by Swamy
NammAzhwAr to use the signature ( hastAksharam) of "SrI SaThakOpa Sri ". All
the Jeeyars who adorned the SrI MaTham throne after the Founding Jeeyar on to
the Prakrutam Jeeayr bear the above ThirunAmams and use
" Sri SaThakOpa Sri " as their Hastaaksharam even today .
Let us now reflect on the Thiru Naamams the succesors of the Founding Jeeyars
selected for themselves on their Aasrama SveekAram day .
NINE the 45 successors chose the sacred name of ThiruveLLUr VeerarAghava
PerumAl and are revered as "Sri VaNN SaThakOpa Sri VeerarAghava SaThakOpa
Yatheendhra MahA DeSikans . These 9 belong to the 13th , 15th , 17th , 20th ,
23rd , 27th , 32nd , 37th and the 43rd Pattam Jeeyars . The 15th Pattam
Azhagiya Singar has additional prefix of "KalyANa" before "VeerarAghava
Yatheendhra MahA Desikan". Most of them are from the Vaidhika GrAmams in and
around ThiruveLLUr or Kaanchipuram in ThoNDai MaNDalam such as YesanUr ,
PiLLaippAkkam and Ilanagar . There are however number of Azhagiya Singars
from ThoNDai MaNDalam , who chose the names of other dhivya desa EmperumAns
or PoorvAchAryAs .
EIGHT of the 46 Azhagiya Singars chose the name of Swamy NammAzhwAr as their
ThirunAmams including the First Jeeyar : " Srimath Aadhi VaNN SaThakOpa
Yatheendhra MahA Desikan " . The First, 5th , 7th , 10th , 16th , 33rd , 34th
and the 41st Pattam Azhagiya Singars carry this ThirunAmam. Three of these 8
Jeeyars have either a prefix or suffix after "SaThakOpa ". For instance , the
5th Pattam Azhagiya Singar chose the titile of " sarva tantra svatantra
SaThakOpa Yatheendhra MahA Desikan". The 34th Pattam Azhagiya Singar is known
as: SaThakOpa RaamAnuja Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan ". The 41st Pattam Jeeyar
is known as : " Lakshmi Nrisimha SaThakOpa Yatheendhra MahA Desikan ".
EIGHT more of the 46 Azhagiya Singars have borne the title of "NaarAyaNa
Yatheendhra MahA Desikan including the Prakrutam 45th Pattam (Periya)
Azhagiya Singar . The 2nd , 9th , 12th , 14th , 18th , 22nd , 31st and the
45th Pattam Azhagiya Singars are revered as : " SrI VaN SaThakOpa Sri
NaarAyaNa Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikans". There is no suffix or Prefix before the
NaarAyaNa SaBdham .
SEVEN OF THE 46 Azhagiya Singars carry the ThirunAmam of ThiruvEngadamudayAn
and are worshipped as " SrinivAsa Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan " with out any
prefix or suffix before their names. These Azhagiya Singars are : The 4th ,
11th , 19th , 25th , 30th , 36th and the 38th Pattam Jeeyars.
SEVEN of the 46 Azhagiya Singars carry the ParAnkusa ThirunAmam to remind
themselves of the special grace of Swamy NammAzhwAr ( ParAnkusar) . These
seven are : The 3rd , 6th , 8th , 21st , 24th , 29th and the 39th Pattam
Jeeyars . The sixth Pattam Azhagiya Singar has the suffix of "Shashta "
before the Thiru nAmam of "ParAnkusa Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan". The 29th
Pattam Azhagiya Singar has the suffix of RaamAnuja after the ParAnkuSa Naamam
: ParAnkuSa RaamAnuja Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan ".
SIX of the 45 Azhagiya Singars carry the ThirunAmam of Lord RanganAtha of Sri
Rangam . These are the 26th , 28th , 35th, 40th , 42nd and the 46th Pattam
Srimath Azhagiya Signars . Prakrutam Chinna Azhagiya Singar is the 46th
Pattam Jeeyar.
Only ONE among the 46 Azhagiya Singars carry Swamy Desikan's ThirunAmam . He
is the 44th Pattam , Srimath Mukkur Azhagiya Singar , who built the southen
Raaja Gopuram of Lord RanganAtha and is revered as Sri VedAntha Desika
Yatheendhra Mahaa Desikan .
Acharya Thiru Nakshatrams of the illustrious Jeeyars of Sri Ahobila MaTham
will be celebrated on September 5 , 2010 at the Sri RanganAtha Temple ,
Pomona , NY . Please join the sishyAs and abhimAnis of SrI AhOBila MaTham ,
who would assemble there on this day to enjoy Thirumanjanam for Dolai KaNan ,
Veda -dhivya prabhandha PaarAyaNams and TadhiyArAdhanam as well as children's
programs . Please make your travel plans early since it will be a busy
weekend for travel . Please refer to Ahobila Matam portal
(http://www.ahobilam utt.org) for all details .
Srimath Azhagiya Singar ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam ,
DhAsan , Oppiliappan Koil Varadachari Sadagopan
.
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